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On Sunday 15 September 2024, the SAA NSW Branch will be holding their annual AE1 Memorial service at Sub Base Platypus at 1100.
The service will also include the Scattering of Ashes for POUCSM Paul Edward Barnett R134767. Medals may be worn.
After the service,
retire to the Kirribilli Hotel.
Parking is available in the adjacent streets or in the RANTME Car Park off High St.
Walking distance from Milsons Point Station or Ferry at Karaba Wharf. (High St). Parking is extremely difficult at Kirribilli Hotel, so consider Public Transport or be prepared to walk as required.
Geoff
The Association's aims and goals are:
•To keep alive the
unique esprit de corps of the Submarine Service;
•To
establish and maintain a charitable trust, being a welfare
foundation;
•To assist one another as occasion may require
and to encourage social activities;
•To liaise with kindred
organisations, both nationally and internationally; and,
•To
educate members about their entitlements and provide access to
Department of Veterans' Affairs advocates
The
Association maintains a close relationship with several overseas
Submariners' Associations. Membership is open to all submariners, regardless of the Navy in which they served.
Submarine Association Australia National Office Holders
Welcome to the opening of the SAA Web site after a number of months of inactivity. As discussed and agreed at SUBCON 23, it is intended to have a leaner version of the site from the previous site (created by Tim Bass, incorporating Normie’s Site). This is a deliberate action as we look to protect members from possible cyber activities. Tony Vine has updated the Eternal Patrol Page and it now contains the names of over 250 deceased submariners, up from 130 at this time last year. Please review the list and if you can identify any mistakes or omissions, I request that you forward them to Tony at Saa.vpresident@gmail.com. News on the planning of SUBCON24 will also start to be advertised. In due course you will see, as another action from SUBCON 23, proposed amendments to the constitution that will be promulgated for members review and comment. I would like to thank and welcome Bob Hendrie as our new Web Master and he will work with Jason Minns (Communication Information Manger) to ensure we manage the site correctly and best protect SAA members. I would also like to thank our new National Secretary Paul Gale who is in the process of receiving a handover from David Bryant.
New SA Branch President
On behalf of the National Executive I would like to congratulate and thank Fran Boyle who has stepped into the SA Branch President. Fran is a former Collins submariner now residing in SA is our first female president and I hope not our last. I hope her appointment helps attract more of our younger shipmates to not only join the SAA but look at moving into committee positions as well.
The member affected has stated that he will not provide names but I can assure the membership that if he was to I would (with the National Executive backing) provide a ‘notice to show cause’ as to why they should remain as members of the SAA, and if they were not members I can assure you that any request for membership would not be looked on favourably.
While they may not think that the above is not much of a punishment I can assure those responsible that if this issue was to be moved to a more legal forum they could be in serious trouble.
The SAA has been in contact with our member and are available to support him, we will reach out should he ask. I personally know the member affected and have served with him and consider him a friend, I hope that this issue does not drive him away from his friends and fellow SAA members.
It is with great sadness that the SAA advises members of the passing of Paul “Barney” Barnett in
Queensland on the 28 th of July after a long illness.
Paul served in O Boats in the 1980s and in the
early 1990s.
A memorial service for Paul will be held in the coming weeks in Brisbane after which his body will be
cremated.
Paul’s wishes were that his ashes be scattered in Neutral Bay, and it is intended that a
second service will be conducted in conjunction with the NSW Branch's AE1 Memorial service on the
15 th of September. Details of both services will be forwarded when known.
Paul was survived by his sister Debbie in London and his three sons, Phillip, Daniel & Stephen.
Vale Petty Officer Paul Barnett.
SCATTERING OF ASHES – PAUL BARNETT Details available Paul Barnett
The President, National Committee and members of tthe SAA congratulate :
David Bryant on his award of an OAM in the Kings Honours for 2024. A well deserved honour, BZ David Bryant Medal of the Order of Australia (OAM) in the General Division Mr David John Bryant, Tea Tree Gully SA 5091
Lieutenant Thomas Ralph ICKE RAN For outstanding achievement as the Royal Australian Navy Submarine Liaison officer to the United States Navy Commander, Submarine Group SEVEN in support of Operation SAVILLE from July 2021 to July 2023.
Captain Glen Andrew MILES RAN For outstanding achievement as the Director Nuclear Powered Submarine Capability – Operational Evaluation.
110 years ago on the 24th of May 1914 the RAN’s first submarines arrived in Sydney.
HMA Submarines AE1 and AE2. Built for the Royal Australian Navy, AE1 and AE2 were Australia’s first of two E Class submarines. Under the respective commands of Lieutenant Commander T.F. Besant, RN and Lieutenant Commander H.H.G. Stoker, RN, these boats were manned by Royal Navy officers with a mixed crew of sailors drawn from the Royal Navy and the Royal Australian Navy.
The boats arrived in Sydney 83 days after leaving Portsmouth and covered more than 13,000 miles. Although the submarines remained surfaced for almost all of the voyage, it was at the time the longest transit distance ever travelled by a submarine.
AE1 sank on 14 September 1914 during the Australian Naval and Military Expeditionary Force operation to seize the German colonies in New Guinea and the South Pacific. Likely the result of a diving accident, the sinking claimed the lives of the submarine’s entire complement of three officers and 32 sailors. The wreck was located in December 2017 in 300 metres of water off the Duke of York Island group.
On 30 April 1915, AE2 successfully forced a passage through Türkiye’s heavily fortified Dardanelles Strait, before she sank in action. The crew were taken to a Turkish prison camp where all but four ratings survived. The wreck of AE2 was discovered in June 1998 lying in 72 metres of water north of Kara Burnu Point. The 110th anniversary of these boats’ arrival into the Royal Australian Navy is an opportunity to reflect on the achievements of their service and sacrifice more than a century ago.
A link to the Australian National Maritime Museum about the arrival is available Here
Great article in the Australian Saturday 1 June 2024 regarding an Australian midget Submariner the link is available Here
For people who are unable to read the Australian a plain text copy is available Here
The Australian Government announcement Life of Type Extension (LOTE) for Collins Class Submarines. The Navy News is available Here
AUKUS News
Breaking news from AUKUS : BAE Systems and ASC to build the new submarines with Rolls Royce to build the power plant. New Agreement Minister of Defence Rolls Royce
The new Battle Scape with AUKUS review
The Australian Submarine AUKUS pathway for the future has been made public download a copy here
Three Australian Naval Officers have now passed the USN reactor training course additional information Here
A second artical about our Naval Officers training is available Here
PD Briggs latest Review of the new submarine project Here
Current works related to the AUKUS Build Here
Could we be getting UK built boats Here
Todays 14 March 2024 News:
AUKUS News: New problems with the AUKUS Build read news Here
Pentagon looks to allay AUKUS Here
This year marks 30 Years of HMAS Collins at Sea. This is longer than any Oberon Class Submarine, as we look back to the start of Collins at sea new1994/ 1995 documents show the PM concerns over the Submarine. Read Article_1
ASC History of the Collins class is available for download Collins class fact sheet
1914: AE1 and AE2 The E class submarines HMA Ships AE1, (LCDR T. F. Besant, RN), and AE2, (LCDR H. H. G. D. Stoker, RN), were commissioned in Portsmouth, England. AE1 and AE2 were laid down in Vickers Yard, Barrow-in-Furness, England. AE1 was launched on 22 May 1913, and AE2 on 18 June 1913. AE1 and AE2 departed Portsmouth on 2 March 1914, for Australia. ..HMAS AE1 was an E-class submarine of the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). She was the first submarine to serve in the RAN, and was lost at sea with all hands near what is now East New Britain, Papua New Guinea, on 14 September 1914, after less than seven months in service. Search missions attempting to locate the wreck began in 1976. The submarine was found during the 13th search mission near the Duke of York Islands in December 2017. ..HMAS AE2 (originally known as AE2) was an E-class submarine of the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). One of two submarines ordered for the fledgling navy, AE2 was built by Vickers Armstrong in England and was commissioned into the RAN in 1914. Together with her sister submarine, HMAS AE1, the boat then sailed to Australia in what was, at the time, the longest voyage ever undertaken by a submarine. ..After the start of World War I, AE2 was sent to German New Guinea with the Australian Naval and Military Expeditionary Force, then spent time patrolling around Fiji. With no need for submarines in the Pacific or Indian theatres, AE2 was towed to the Mediterranean, and arrived off Egypt in early 1915. The boat was assigned to the Dardanelles Campaign, and was the first submarine to successfully penetrate the waterway and enter the Sea of Marmara. With orders to "run amok" inside Turkish territory, AE2 operated for five days before mechanical faults forced her to the surface, where she was damaged by the torpedo boat Sultanhisar. The submarine was scuttled by her crew, all of whom were captured. AE2 was the only RAN vessel lost to enemy action during World War I. The Rahmi M. Koç Museum began searching for the wreck in 1995, and found it in 1998. After another expedition in 2008, the Australian and Turkish Governments decided to leave the boat in place.
Finding AE1
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