Submariners worldwide are a special breed, rarely understood by mere mortals and never understood by skimmers. Submariners of all nations understand this and show respect to each other, knowing the hardship and danger that each has faced to achieve membership to that elite club to which they belong.

The Association's aims and goals are: 
•To keep alive the unique "esprit  de corps" of the Submarine Service; 
•To establish and maintain a charitable trust, being a welfare foundation;
•To assist one another as occasion may require and to encourage social activities;
•To liaise with kindred organisations, both nationally and internationally; and,
•To educate members about their entitlements and provide access to Department of Veterans' Affairs advocates 
The Association maintains a close relationship with several overseas Submariners' Associations.
Membership is open to all submariners, regardless of the navy in which they served.


Just in from Victoria

“The 2023 SUBCON will be held in Victoria over the weekend of October 6 – 9 . Further details will be provided in the New Year”
Further official information regarding the Victoria based 2023 SUBCON will be provided in due course.

Thank you,

Elsie (Ian) Tanner
Ian Tanner

SA Plaque Dedication

Please see below some information on a plaque dedication, by the SA Branch, to all that have serve in RAN Submarines, our very own Bishop will be conducting the service and a number of VIPs including, senior Navy members, will also be on attendance.

The Submarines Association Australia, South Australian Branch, recently commissioned the design and manufacture of a bronze plaque dedicated to all personnel who have served in Royal Australian Navy submarines.
This plaque will be positioned on the wall of the chapel at the Repatriation General Hospital, Daws Road.
A dedication of this plaque will be conducted by the Association at 11:00 on Sunday 19 February 2023 with the Rt. Rev’d Keith W. Dalby, Anglican Bishop of the Murray officiating.

More information will be provided closer to the date.

David Strangward, AM
National President, SAA

The SAA Constitution

In order to ensure everyone is on the same page, please find a copy of the SAA Constitution at this location:

From the desk of our President


To SAA Members I would like to thank and acknowledge the work of the WA Branch in hosting SUBCON 22. It was a great success and I thought the long lunch idea was great, WA turned on lovely weather for the whole weekend. It is always hard to organise these events especially after the hiatus of the pandemic years where we did not have a SUBCON for 2 years.


Our first face to face AGM was conducted in WA and I know our National Sec posted on Facebook the results of the Executive committee election. I took the opportunity to thank Bob Trotter (who was able to attend) for his tireless work over 2 terms as our President. I was extremely happy that Bob accepted our invitation to be the SAA Patron and this was endorsed at the AGM.

The minutes of the AGM will be out soon but some of the decisions in relation to motions are provided below (I am sure your branch representatives will take you through all of issues etc from the AGM).

It was agreed to setup a Communication Information Manager position to assist the SAA in understanding our responsibilities etc in relation to any social media that we want to be associated with. I believe this is extremely important because without a governance process the SAA could expose itself to legal ramifications for comments etc posted on sites that we manage. Once these process/rules are staffed and agreed we will call for expressions of interest for the position. I have stated before that there has been an issue where the SAA was contacted by a legal entity about comments posted and stating if it continued they would seek legal advice, to the point that they named names of those that posted those comments.

It was also discussed and that the SAA would investigate the rules around the management etc of any memorials that we would or are associated with and I took an action to talk to Navy on this issue.

There were a number of other issues discussed and these will, I am sure, be passed to you by your respective state representatives in the near future. But all should be aware that these motions that are tabled have been discussed at state branch level and are represented at the National Committee meeting by your representatives.

I have also been asked why we did not utilise a media such as Zoom for the AGM, I can say that this was discussed prior to the AGM as well as at the meeting. At the time we did not have the necessary IT equipment to do this or the connectivity at the venue and unless we can provide a quality product I do not think it is viable. I can assure you a tiny laptop on the end of the desk does not cut it.

I can also inform you that the SAA has been in contact with Navy in relation to LCDR Michael Hickey who turns 100 this year. We have been informed that a delegation will be visiting Michael later this year lead by Commander of the Submarine Force. (thanks to NSW SAA for driving this).

I hope you have seen the information for the memorial service for VADM MacDougall and the information outlining how you register to get on to Garden Island if you wish to attend.

I look forward to hearing about the planning for SUBCON 23 and hope we can get another good crowd in Melbourne.


David Strangward, AM
National SAA President

An update on the memorial service for VADM MacDougall -
I am writing to request you to circulate a message to all members of your respective RAN veterans associations letting them know that they are cordially invited to attend the Memorial Service for former CNS VADM Ian MacDougall AC AFSM to be held at 1000 on 24 November at the Garden Island Chapel HMAS Kuttabul.

Shuttle Buses will run to the chapel from the Kuttabul Cowper Wharf Road gangway from 0920. Please ask all those planning to attend to register their intention with the Commanding Officer’s Secretary AB Ben Lovett on email: and indicate if they need to be allocated car parking on board. The very restricted parking near the chapel will be limited to senior officers and to the MacDougal family and those with mobility difficulties. The latter will need to provide car registration numbers with their registration. There will be lift operating to take members using wheelchairs to the chapel from ground level.

After the service the MacDougall family’s reception for all those attending the service will be at the nearby Naval Heritage Centre 1100 – 1215. Shuttle buses will then return guests to the Cowper Wharf Road Gangway.

Kindest regards

Desmond Woods OAM

Lieutenant Commander RAN
Navy Bereavement Liaison Officer
Directorate of Navy Past Workforce Incident Management

Regards, David Strangward President Submarines Association Australia

Questions, questions, questions

We are sure there are many who have wondered WTF is going on with the Website? The site had not left. It wasn't taken down. Sure an additional banner was present, but hardy searchers would have found everything was intact. A protest has been and still is underway against things that will become clear in the near future.             

The Submarine Association Australia Welfare Successor Foundation

In the beginning – The Submarine Old Comrades Association (SOCA).
Little is known, and less is documented, about the funding of this organisation beyond the fact that it was a somewhat informal gathering based upon and loosely affiliated with the SOCA in the United Kingdom. Its membership consisted overwhelmingly of ex-Royal Navy (RN) submariners who settled in Australia after WW2. Most had served in RN submarines based in Australia. Their objectives were to provide mutual support and to maintain the comradeship which had been forged during the War.

So begins the recently documented History of the SAA Welfare Fund (SAAWF). You can find the history here . The Welfare fund guidelines can also be found here

Vale Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II - 1926-2022

From our Vice President


The SAA joins the entire Commonwealth in sorrow for the passing and gratitude for the life of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. She was the longest serving British sovereign and the impact of her reign has been immeasurable.

For over 70 years, the Queen provided us with a sense of pride and unity, and demonstrated an unimpeachable dedication to service. I am sure I am correct in saying that all of us in the SAA have not known or served a different Monarch, her tireless contribution and work ethic provided an unceasing example for us all to follow.

I am sure we will all raise a glass and toast a magnificent example of dedication to all of the Commonwealth and in particular members past and present members of the military

Stand down your Majesty your duty is done

David Strangward, AM
National Vice President

VADM Ian MacDougall AC AFSM - Memorial Service

Memorial Service

10.00 Thursday 24 November - at Garden Island Chapel and
1115 -1230 Reception - Naval Heritage Centre GI


Email below outlining some of the arrangements for the Memorial service as more comes to hand I will forward to all
Message from the Navy provided below

Hello David

Thanks for being in touch. I shall be getting an email address for those wishing to attend to register through and will send it to you. There will be buses taking attendees from the gangway at Kuttabul to the Chapel and back from the Heritage Centre.

Kindest regards

Desmond Woods OAM

Lieutenant Commander RAN
Navy Bereavement Liaison Officer
Directorate of Navy Past Workforce Incident Management

VADM Ian MacDougall AC AFSM - Memorial Service

The time place and date of the Memorial Service has now been confirmed by the Office of the Chief of Navy and the MacDougall family as being:

Memorial Service 10.00 Thursday 24 November at Garden Island Chapel and 

1115 -1230 Reception - Naval Heritage Centre GI

1115 -1230 Reception - Naval Heritage Centre GI

CO, XO, CWO, 1st Lieutenant and RAN Band

Sirs, Timings as discussed with XO and Chaplain.

Please inform the serving or retired Navy community that you represent of the time place and date of this Memorial Service and reception.

Kindest regards

Desmond Woods OAM

Lieutenant Commander RAN
Navy Bereavement Liaison Officer
Directorate of Navy Past Workforce Incident Management


NOTICE in ALbany advertiser re CPOMTPSM Maurice Draper

QLD Branch News

The latest newsletter has been released by Ross Walters (Wombat). Here it is.

You can download a copy here:

RIP Maurice "Drapes" Draper

It is my sad duty to inform the SAA of the passing of Maurice Draper, our thoughts and prayers go out to his family. We do not have any details of the funeral arrangements as yet but we will post them as they become available. Maurice was a long serving submariner and well known in the submarine community especially in WA where he resided It is my sad duty to inform the SAA of the passing of Maurice Draper, our thoughts and prayers go out to his family. We do not have any details of the funeral arrangements as yet but we will post them as they become available. Maurice was a long serving submariner and well known in the submarine community especially in WA where he resided.

Dave Strangward
National Vice President
Submarines Association Australia

Vale LEUT Ken Chilvers RAN Rtd

Dear Secretaries,
Please pass these messages on to your Branch Members.
Ken was indeed a lovely bloke, and very well respected.
Dave Bryant
SAA National Secretary

Victoria Branch Schedule Released

The following was received from the Vic Pres.
Victoria's next event will be lunch at the Ringwood RSL commencing 1200 on Sunday 22nd May. In order to inform the RSL of numbers please let me know if you are planning to attend.
Also, here is the updated events schedule:

Click here to download a copy
Elsie (Ian) Tanner
Ian Tanner

Funeral Details for CPO John William ("Black Jono") Johnson

Just a note to remind you about Jon's Funeral on Thursday 7th April at 1030. It will be held at Drysdale Funeral Home, 33 National Park Rd, Nambour QLD 4560. Medals may be worn.

Please feel free to attend.

Ross Walters
Secretary SAA Qld Inc
Mobile: 0478 541 303

SUBCON '22 Update

The ever-evolving COVID situations and governmental requirements will be (as usual in these times) a critical factor in determining if SUBCON will go ahead. As we are all now accustomed to, plans can be derailed at very short notice but as of 07 February, planning for SUBCON 22 in WA is well underway.
Friday 30 September to Monday 03 October 2022 inclusive and all events will take place in Rockingham.
PROGRAM Friday 30 Sept (afternoon/evening) - Attendee registration and informal meet-and-greet.
Saturday 01 Oct (morning) - SAA National Executive Meeting
Saturday 01 Oct (afternoon/evening) - Long Lunch, dress code smart casual
Sunday 02 October (morning) - SAA Annual General Meeting.
Sunday 02 October (afternoon o/c of AGM) - visit to a local Microbrewery/Eatery
Monday 03 October (morning) - Barbeque Breakfast and short service at Orion's Fin followed by a short farewell function.
There are a few accommodation options in Rockingham area which we will promulgate in the coming weeks. Of course a quick internet search will also provide options!
TRANSPORT (once in Rockingham)
Our intention is to make a bus available to carry attendees to/from most events.
As of 16 Feb, 146 people have indicated an interest in attending. We continue to request expressions of interest from you (including partners) if you have not already done so.
We will commence Registration of attendance soon but for now, we are seeking expressions of interest only.
Stay tuned for future updates but if you have any questions or to send your expression of interest, please contact WA Secretary Tony Masters at or WA President Peter O'Donohue at

SUBCON23 Planning

The 2023 SUBCON is planned to take place in Victoria over the Queens Birthday weekend (9-12 June), and whilst this seems a long way off, planning for this event needs to start now.
To this end the SAAV General Committee is calling for volunteers to form a SUBCON 2023 organising committee.
If you would like to volunteer for this worthwhile challenge please let me know soonest as nominations will close on Friday 18th February 2022.
If you require further details please contact me either by phone or email.


Elsie (Ian) Tanner
Ian Tanner
President St. Kilda RSL
Branch Secretary Submarines Association Australia Victoria
Flat 5|343 Beaconsfield Parade|St Kilda West|VIC 3182
M 0450 642 835

QLD AGM Details

SAA Qld General Meeting

Sunday 13 February 2022 @ 1130

Coorparoo RSL,
Holdsworth St, Coorparoo


Ross Walters
Secretary SAA Qld Inc
Mobile:0478 541 393

G'day Submariners. May you live in interesting times?

That self-fulfilling Chinese proverb gave us food for thought during the last 12 or 18 months. On a personal level. Who would have thought, especially not me, that I'd be writing to you via a speech to text app because it's too wearying or should I say tiresome to try and write long messages, with a low error rate, whilst I'm still relearning to read and write following my stroke last January. But here we are.
My fate over the last few months has been determined by medical condition, but, it's really brought home to me the value of the mateship, fellowship, mutual benefit that there is for belonging to our great submarines association! I've got to thank every last member for the support that they've given me and the association over these months. In particular, all those that gave practical help to me and Norelle during the times when I was unable to do the normal things that husbands do around the house. Well done everyone.
Our vice president Dave Strangward has done exceptionally well in looking after the shop so, thanks Dave! Bravo Zulu!
Getting back to these interesting times, 2021 has held its surprises. The immediacy of COVID 19 matters was almost eclipsed by the news of the Force becoming a nuclear one. It has been far from a normal year.
We've had our fair share of members departing on their final patrol; falling ill; members families falling ill. It's pleasing to note how easily the association comes to the fore in the circumstances – bringing mutual benefit for us all. Well done.
Next year is going to be as uncertain as the last, I am sure. Whether it be the incredible change in the submarine forces fortunes in going nuclear, Subcon in a COVID-free WA or simply the continuing problems of living with the COVID endemic. But life will go on. Christmas and New Years I'm sure will come and go. Yeah, some will enjoy them more than others. Some will be able to get their families together more than others. But nonetheless. It is Christmas and it is new year. So I'd like to wish you. And all of your families. A very Merry Christmas and a very prosperous, if not changeable new year into 2022.
Last, but certainly not least, some words from VP Dave:
“This year, as with last year has thrown up many challenges for all of us not least the planning of the last 2 SUBCONs that had to be cancelled due to Covid. Let’s all hope that 2022 is a better year and we are able to all meet in WA during the October long weekend for SUBCON 22.

So on behalf of the National committee I would like to wish all members and families a great Christmas and please keep safe and remember that the submarine community is always there for a chat or beer should you need it.”

Commodore Bob Trotter OAM RAN (Ret'd)
National President

Update on Otama

We have received a communication including a summary of the current position with the ex-HMAS Otama. Quotes attributable to Parks Victoria, Regional Director Marine and Maritime Jo Richards

“The Association has failed to comply with three previous notices to move the deteriorating Otama, so we have been left with no other option but to begin the process to remove it from Western Port entirely.”

“This is a necessary step to remove further risk to the environment and the community and is the only realistic option moving forward.”

“We acknowledge the Association’s vision for the Otama but, unfortunately, there has been no substantial progress since the group took ownership of the vessel over 20 years ago.”


On 4 September 2021, Parks Victoria worked with Port of Hastings Development Authority and Ports Victoria to move the vessel from its previous location to a shallower mooring offshore from Crib Point, still within local port waters managed by Parks Victoria, to minimise the risk of sinking in deep water.

The owner has failed to comply with three previous Direction to Move notices issued by Parks Victoria under the Port Management Act 1995 over the last three months.
The most recent expired on 2 October 2021.

The Victorian Government through port managers, Parks Victoria, Port of Hastings Development Authority and Ports Victoria, has been monitoring the condition of the ex-HMAS Otama (the Otama) for some time.

The vessel is owned by the Westernport Oberon Association Inc (the Association) who has been informed over a long period of time that the Otama is not safe through a lack of maintenance.

The Otama began to list in February 2021, and the Association was notified and took no action.

The Otama’s list increased significantly following overnight storms on 10 and 11 June 2021.

Immediate action was taken by the port managers to stabilise the listing vessel at its location in Western Port to minimise the risk of it sinking. This included temporarily sealing hatches and holes, attaching buoyancy and counterweights, and pumping out water. A 200 metre exclusion zone was established around the vessel for the safety of other boaters.

On 30 June 2021, the Otama was returned to a vertical position and maintained by intermittent pumping and ongoing monitoring.

The Victorian Government has done a great deal over the last few years including funding replacement mooring tackle, and the recent stabilisation and relocation efforts. It is not sustainable to continue to redirect public funds from other priorities to prolong the life of a highly deteriorated retired military asset that remains a real risk to maritime navigation and to the sensitive marine values of the Western Port Ramsar site.

In accordance with Division 4 of the Port Management Act 1995, Parks Victoria has notified the vessel owner of its intentions to commence a process to remove the Otama from Western Port by way of sale, gift or disposal.


Tom Driver

It is my sad duty to inform the SA of the passing of Tom Driver a true gentleman and long serving submariner both in the RAN and RN, our thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

David Strangward
SAA National Vic President

Mike Hickey turns 99

Lieutenant Commander Michael T Hickie R.N, R.A.N, Ret’d. D.S.C, Arctic Star, Royal Navy, Royal Australian Navy.
He Turns 99 years of age on 17 October, 2021,

LCDR M T Hickie Rn., R.A.N, Ret'd

Michael Timothy Hickie was born on 17th October 1922, in Mussoorie, Uttarakhand, North West India. His parents were both from distinguished British Raj families. Mike was then educated in UK, and joined Dartmouth Naval College in 1936. (Mike was, we believe, a year below Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh.) In 1940 he joined his first ship as a Midshipman, ‘HMS Repulse’, a Battle cruiser – operating in North Sea. Then on ‘HMS Eskimo’, and then ‘HMS Nigeria’, with dramatic session helping in sink German battleship, the ‘Bremse’. After completing his training course Mike volunteered for Submarines, qualifying in July 1942. He then joined P222 in Gibraltar. At this point Churchhill gave orders that all Submarines should have names, and not just numbers. Mike then served on ‘HMS Ursula’, engaging in much action, and the Sub was damaged. ‘Ursula’ was ordered back to Portsmouth for repairs – it was Feb 43. Mike was then assigned to ‘HMS Truant’, as First Lieutenant, based in Holy Loch. They had several successful missions in the North Sea and Arctic waters close to Iceland. Here it was so cold, that when the Sub surfaced to recharge its batteries ice would form quickly on the railings, in heavy sea, men had stand ready to bash off this ice, in case the Submarine became top heavy and turned turtle with the extra weight.
It was in here in Holy Loch, Mike met Wren Patricia Traunter, and their romance began. Pat had an exciting story, for she had left her English parents working in Argentina, to come to UK, at beginning of war, to volunteer - but her ship was torpedoed in the Atlantic. Pat spent three weeks in an open lifeboat, before rescue. Pat then served as a Wren at Holy Loch. They were married in January 1944, with an aunt of Pat’s present, and some of Mike’s family. Their first child Tim, was born in November.
Mike then served on ‘HMS Taciturn’, on Patrol in Pacific, till peace was declared. They had a number of ‘Victory Cruises’ in Pacific.
When in Freemantle, in a special service, Mike was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross.
Mike then served on ‘HMS Truncheon’ in Hong Kong waters. In 1947 Mike was appointed to ‘HMS Anchorite’, in Holy Loch. Pat was staying with her sister in Sussex. A daughter Tessa was born in November 1948. Mike then took command of ‘HMS Sirdar’, and later ‘HMS Amphion’, serving off Greenland in icy waters. Here they were sometimes under the ice shelf for long periods. Then Mike then took Command of ‘HMS Tallyho”, serving in Bay of Bengal. Mike saw much of the world, and in 1955 was based in Malta. Mike then served on ‘HMS Gambia’ east of the Suez. In 1960 he was appointed to “HMS Rooke”, the shore base in Gibraltar as Staff Officer Operations, serving there for three years, and with Pat living there also. Then Mike went as Work Study Officer on aircraft carrier ‘HMS Ark Royal’.
In April 1966, Mike left the Royal Navy, and he and the family moved to Australia. However, here he reported to Australian Navy at ‘HMAS Penguin’, the Naval base in Mosman, and he then joined ‘HMAS Platypus’ in mid-1969. He then served as First Lieutenant on ‘HMAS Sydney’ for 16 months, with three trips to Vietnam. Retiring in 1974 he took a position at St Ignatius College as the bursar. However, in 1976 he received a request from Australian Prime Minister Whitlam, to help with new Submarines, and so re-joined the RAN, and served on ‘HMAS Kuttabul’. In 1983 Mike left the Australian Navy, and took a position at the Australian Museum. Later Mike and Pat retired to South Coast, but Pat sadly passed away March 2006. Then Mike moved to Sydney staying near his children, Tim and Tessa.
When turning 90 he met Joan M Wilson, widow of Submariner Lieut. Commander Don Wilson DSC, RANVR. Joan was about to lead a tour group to India which was visiting Mussoorie – the place where Mike had been born. Then with Joan, Mike travelled to Catania in southern Italy, representing Australia at the International Submariners Congress. They then went on to UK visiting Dartmouth Naval College, where Mike was told he was eligible for another medal - “The Arctic Star’. This is awarded to those who served escorting convoys into the Arctic and round to Murmansk in Russia in WW2, which was during Mike’s service on HMS Nigeria’ in 1941. They have also travelled to Holbrook to the Submarine Memorial Museum for the service to remember those who had, on submarines, served in W1 and WW2. Mike then moved to the RSL Village in Narrabeen, and is at present staying there in Milne Bay Hostel. Hopefully if Lockdown allows, Mike will celebrate his 99th Birthday with his family, Tim and Tessa and also with Joan.



Life Memberships

On behalf of the National Executive Committee and all SAA members I would like to congratulate Billy Clayton and Peter Sellers on being awarded life membership to the SAA. I am sure you would all agree they are both worthy recipients. It is disappointing that we cannot present these awards in person at SUBCON but circumstances have been against it, hopefully we can recognise both at SUBCON 22 in WA.

David Strangward, AM
National Vice President, SAA

William 'Trapper' Trow

It is my sad duty to inform the SAA Membership of the passing of William ‘Trapper’ Trow who passed away yesterday. I am sure you would all join me in passing our condolences from the Submarine community to Trapper’s family. As usual Ray Kemp has jumped in and assisted the family with DVA etc.

I will get more details out as they become available.

David Strangward
National Vice President

From our VP

To SAA Members,

As most of you would be aware, SAA ACT have had to make the difficult decision to cancel SUBCON 21 mainly because the risk and uncertainty surrounding Covid was deemed too high. The branch also undertook a number of surveys to see how many members would be attending. At the last survey (undertaken last week) there would not have been enough representatives from the National Executive, National Committee or their representatives, or financial members to conduct an AGM. The AGM is the cornerstone of a SUBCON and last year we were also due to hold an election of office bearers (which of course did not happen).

With the cancellation of Holbrook SUBCON 21 SAA WA have agreed to host SUBCON 22 (and I have been informed have appointed a SUBCON planning committee), for which I am sure planning will commence in due course and then more information will become available.

As of this year we would have been 4 years without an election, and therefore the National Executive are investigating a number of possible actions until we can actually hold an AGM in person at a SUBCON, hopefully at SUBCON 22, those actions include:

1. If the incumbents are happy to continue in their current roles the National Executive would stay the same until 2022, or
2. If any members wish to nominate for a position on the National Executive we would investigate holding a virtual election.

I hope all members are keeping safe in these very trying times and hopefully we can get to WA next year and have a great weekend.

David Strangward
SAA National Vice President

SUBCON21 GO/NO GO Decision

Dear SAA Members and Friends,

The SUBCON21 organising committee made the decision today to cancel SUBCON21. This decision was based on the following main considerations:

1. The current COVID outbreak in NSW has created considerable uncertainty. This has resulted in the withdrawal of a third of the registered SAA members and their guests.

2. It is uncertain when the current social distancing regulations in NSW regional areas will be lifted. This means that masks are compulsory, no standing up inside the venues and a 50% reduction in the number of members able to attend planned SUBCON21 events, with the exception of the farewell BBQ.

3. Uncertainty around Border closures and Quarantine regimes that have caused many members to withdraw or not register to attend.

4. Financial situation. To date SUBCON21 has not made any significant financial commitments. However, over the coming weeks we are required to commit funds. Additionally, due to the reductions in attendance numbers the costs per head are anticipated to increase.

5. In response to the questionnaire, only 29 SAA members indicated that they are still attending.. The Quorum for the National AGM is 50 financial SAA members. Additionally, there is only 1 member of the National Committee able to attend so the National Executive Meeting cannot be held in Holbrook. The main purpose of SUBCON, apart from catching up with our mates, is to provide the social events around the National AGM.

6. Sponsors. SUBCON relies on the support of its valued Sponsors. SUBCON21 has received the generous support of KCM consulting, SIA, JFD and THALES. It is important for future sponsorship that we ensure that our Sponsors get value for money.

The SAA ACT Branch very much regrets the cancellation of SUBCON21. From the outset we undertook to deliver a COVID safe and Financially responsible SUBCON. Unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond our control, we are unable to deliver on that undertaking.

We would like to thank our many friends, providers and supporters in Holbrook who have been very flexible and understanding over the past 2 years. We know that they will be disappointed but hopefully we can make it up to them in the not too distant future..

The National Executive committee will advise the SAA membership on matters concerning the 2021 National AGM. In due course, the National Executive will also advise the location of the next SUBCON.

Finally, thanks to all SAA members and friends who have supported our efforts throughout the past 2 years. We know how important this event is to the members and it was just plain bad luck and poor timing that COVID trumped our efforts. It is great to see that the Submariner spirit is alive and as strong ever. See you at SUBCON22.

Kind Regards

On behalf of the ACT SUBCON21 organising committee.

Stan Nimmo
SAA ACT Branch
01 Aug 2021

QLD AGM Announcement

An update from the QLD Secretary
Dear Members,

Due to a technical glitch, I am reissuing the link for the meeting on Saturday, 24th July. I hope you can use it to stay in contact with the association especially those up north.

SAA Qld General Meeting/AGM
Saturday, 24 July · 10:30 – 12:30
Google Meet joining info
Video call link:

It would be good if as many as possible are able to attend in person. Access to the room will be open through the bottom door. Everybody will need to check in as well as sign our attendance book.

If you could use the website, to register your attendance or apology it would be much appreciated. If you have any business for the meeting, please send me an email soonest to have it included. Minutes of the previous meeting and AGM are on the website if you would like to read it.


Ross Walters

Secretary SAA Qld Inc.
MOB: 0479 541 303


We have received another update from Otama
a day of pumping and patching.

We are still at zero, but need to keep pumping to stay ahead of the leaks.

Numerous failure are becoming apparent, including for example, the sea tube connecting D Stbd to the sea through 4 MBT which has failed and allowing water to flood back into 4 stbd MBT - the grills are now plugged with putty.

The SM remains in a precarious state, with weather marginal tomorrow through to Monday am.

There will be watch keepers onboard overnight to run the pumps.

The move to a shallow water berth is the next priority.

Some shots to illustrate the problem

An Update from Peter Briggs

Subject: Re: OTAMA SITREP 29Jun21

A good day afloat, the salvage team managed to patch the major holes in 4 Stbd MBT that were still below the surface sufficiently to get a pump suction into the tank and start de-watering.

SM is now upright with pumps running on 3,4 and 5 MBT - all of which were flooded.

Counter weights are being removed as necessary to maintain a level trim.

The Stbd tanks will require extensive temporary patching, they are in worse shape than we imagined, some of it major, to reduce the need for continuous pumping.

Photos to follow - IT issue here.

Focus will now turn to preparing the shallow mooring with a view to the earliest move possible.

Tug masters briefed and visited the SM today to assist in preparing a plan for the move.

A busy day tomorrow.

Weather deteriorating and marginal from pm Thu until pm Sunday.


Peter Briggs

Update regarding ex HMAS Otama from Dave Strangward National Vice President SAA

The brief and video below provided by Peter Briggs, who has been assisting with the activities around the OTAMA situation. I will provide more updates as they become available. I am sure if Peter requires some SM assistance he will reach out for it and I am also sure there will be no shortage of volunteers if needed.

The video shows salvage and engineering teams working on OTAMA.

After a successful day rigging additional buoyancy under the Starboard side the SM list was reduced from 42 to 28 degrees to starboard.

The hatches having been previously sealed by the salvage team.

Work will continue today to add further buoyancy and de-water the Starboard tanks which is causing the list.

The team have put out a request for an Oberon Class trim crib to assist their efforts to develop a stability model.

David Strangward,
National Vice President

HMAS Otama - 28Jun21 (4K) from Gary Swanton on Vimeo.

Funeral Arrangements for Jerry Lewis

Dear Members,

The funeral arrangements for ex-CPOMESM Colin “Jerry” Lewis are as follows:

Wednesday, 23rd June 2021 at 10 30 am.

Place: Gregson & Weight Funeral Directors, 159 Wises Rd, Buderim, Qld.

This is to be live streamed live on Look at the Funeral Streaming Centre. The link will be available in a couple of days on this site. There is section where you can leave comments during the service.

No Flowers. RSL will do a Poppy service and poppies to be supplied.

Dress: Medals to be worn.

Ross Walters
Secretary SAA Qld Inc.
MOB: 0478 541 303

Message from the National VP

To All SAA Members,

I have received an e-mail from Des Scanlan notifying the Executive that the SAA North Queensland will cease to exist and stating that this decision was made mainly due to a lack of interest by members. This is a sad turn of events and I really believe that many other State branches are facing the same issues.

I watch with interest each year as states conduct their AGMs and then announce their committees that the names rarely change.

We are an Association that is not getting any younger and unless more members come forward to assist in the roles of each branch or we attract a younger members we as an Association may go the same way as SAA North Queensland.

At the next SUBCON AGM I will be asking for input to how we can attract younger members (I know we have tried before) but we need to put a bigger effort in if possible.

I will also be asking WA as next cap of the rank if they are prepared to plan and conduct SUBCON 2022.


David Strangward
National Vice President

SAA Victoria still holding meetings despite Covid


The Covid restrictions have been relaxed enough to be able to hold our meeting this coming Sunday.

St Kilda RSL Commencing 1200
Business Meeting
Light lunch
Up Spirits
Raffle – Alan is more than happy to accept donations.

We will need to split 10 to a table (should not be a problem) Table service only. Mask must be worn at all time unless eating or drinking. (Not a problem just keep you glass well topped up!!)

See you Sunday.


Elsie (Ian) Tanner
Ian Tanner
President St. Kilda RSL
Branch Secretary Submarines Association Australia Victoria
M 0450 642 835

Commodore Bob Trotter OAM RAN (Ret’d) - Update 20/05/2021

Good news!
Having been in hospital since 20 April (and his 75th Birthday) Bob has been advised that he is likely to go home today. Roy Stall will provide transport for Bob.
Bob’s condition is much the same as previously reported and Bob will now receive Out-patient treatment to determine just when the medicos can effectively put him back onto blood thinners. Bob expects that this could be a wait of up to three months as “they” await his small brain bleed to stablise.
In the meantime, in his words, he will have to “waddle like a duck” until blood thinners can assist in removing DVTs from both legs. At least he is now heading / waddling in the right direction.
Bob’s Navy Family have come to the fore! Bob and Norelle were faced with a problem of light fittings being difficult to reach and portions of their guttering being too high for the DVA assisted gutter cleaners to free up. Peter O’Donohue, President of SAAWA, and two trusty braves yesterday completed a lamp up and gutter clearing action. BZ to them.

David Strangward
National Vice President

Commodore Bob Trotter OAM RAN (Ret’d) - Update 30/04/2021

To All,
Unfortunately, once more young Bob is in hospital and has been for just over a week now. Transferred yesterday from Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital to Hollywood Hospital. He has had a secondary brain bleed and now doctors are trying to work out the best treatment for the way ahead. As Bob puts it, “The quandary is that the lower part of his body needs thin blood and the upper section, specifically the brain, needs the thicker blood!” He feels that he is in between a rock and a hard place at the moment and is hoping that the medicos can get him up and running soonest. The brain bleed is affecting his eyesight, in particular to his right side, where what the eyeball sees is not necessarily communicated correctly to the brain. Reading and recognising words is very difficult. Anyway, Bob is maintaining a good sense of humour and is looking forward to a return to a more normal level of life Dave Strangward National Vice-President

David Strangward
National Vice President SAA


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